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Old July 30th, 2008
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Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

Nakabili ako ng brand new Suzuki MOLA may problema ang electrical. Ayaw mag charge ang battery, kaya halos di magamit ang electric start, kung mag kick start lang man din eh dapat siguro Mola 125cc na lang at mas mura pa.

Rare case ba ito? O meron pa ibang ganito din ang experience?



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Old July 30th, 2008
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

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Nakabili ako ng brand new Suzuki MOLA may problema ang electrical. Ayaw mag charge ang battery, kaya halos di magamit ang electric start, kung mag kick start lang man din eh dapat siguro Mola 125cc na lang at mas mura pa.

Rare case ba ito? O meron pa ibang ganito din ang experience?
rare case po yan..at pwede rin sabihing isolated case.. ibalik mo nalang sa dealer kasama ang waranty baka defected ang rectifier nya kaya ayaw kumarga..
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Old July 31st, 2008
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

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Nakabili ako ng brand new Suzuki MOLA may problema ang electrical. Ayaw mag charge ang battery, kaya halos di magamit ang electric start, kung mag kick start lang man din eh dapat siguro Mola 125cc na lang at mas mura pa.

Rare case ba ito? O meron pa ibang ganito din ang experience?
Bai, maayong buntag...anong year na labas yang mola mo sir? kasi basing on my own experience wala pa naman akong na-encounter na ganyang sakit. Yung Mola ko ay nilabas ng planta ng June 2007 at diniliver sa Motortrade Sucat, paranaque. Nabili ko ito nung October 2007...bago ko inuwi ito sa bahay nag run-through kami sa checklist nila kung saan naka-detalye yung mga set-up ng bike mo na within specs., pinaandar, tinesting isa-isa yung mga gauges, ilaw, brakes, ignition switch, start push buttons, signal lights, headlights, parking light, clutch play at gear shiftings...etc., pati mga minimum play ng mga clutch and brake levers...after that nag-fillup ako ng mga documents bago ko pa man nauwi sa bahay.

Now, ginawa nyo ba itong tests na ito nung pinickup nyo yung bike nyo sa dealer?Nag test ba kayo nung start push button dun sa dealer nyo? tinesting nyo rin ba yung ilaw at busina? Nung nag push button start ba kayo Mabilis ba response ng pag-crank o pag-start ng makina?
Kaya ko tinatanong ito dahil baka mahina na talaga yung battery nung binili nyo yung bike at dapat pinalitan nung dealer mo yung battery tsaka nagtesting uli kayo para ma-confirm at makita ang changes ng may bagong charge na battery. Ibig sabihin, after na mapalitan yung battery e talagang lumakas ang busina, quick ang response ng push start button mo at maganda ang buga ng ilaw hindi yung parang fading...

Sir baka hindi CHARGING SYSTEM ang problema mo. Mas mahirap pag charging system at mas mahirap magtrace alin sa mga components ang nagloloko...regulator/rectifier ba? generator ba? etc. I don't think suzuki would be that complacent to let this items pass their QC unnoticed....

Kung unsure kayo na charging system nga ang Culprit, ganito na lang muna gawin nyo sir:
STEP 1.
Silipin mo yung fuse mo na nakatabi lang sa battery, nakabalot ng plastic yun cover yun na dirty white ang kulay, tingnan mo kung naputol yung wire o yung filament sa loob ng glass fuse....palitan nyo lang yan. Yung Fuse natin ay 15Amps.... pwede kang magpalit ng lower amps like 10Amps kung wala ka munang magamit na 15 dyan, iwasan mo lang gumamit ng higher Amps. like 20A or 25A dahil pag nagka-short at uminit na ang mga wires mo baka di pa naputol fuse mo e sunog na yung abutin sa wires.

STEP 2.
Pagkatapos mong mag-check sa fuse, check mo rin ang terminals ng battery mo kung tama ang connections ng positive and negative terminals,
Step 2a.
Check mo ang battery terminals napuno na ng deposits yung mga ulo ng terminal...linisin nyo yan.
Step 2b.
Check mo kung tama ang connection ng terminals
Step 2c.
Check mo ang terminal connection kung loose ang bolt and nut
Step 2d.
Check mo yung tubig sa loob at baka natuyuan na.

STEP 3.
I-switch mo ngayon yung Mola mo at push button mo yung starter, kung mabilis ang redondo o mabilis yung pag-crank sa makina...well, nahuli mo yung problema mo sa Mola mo....ngayon kung mahina ang andar pag nag-switch kayo ng starter button or panay "Click" lang naririnig nyo... baka may problema kayo sa battery.

STEP 4.
To verify kung battery, magbusina kayo, mag-headlight...kung bumubulong na lang ang busina mo at yung healight mo ay tipong nag-overtime na panay dim lang...malamang talagang battery yan.... i-switch mo yung signal light kasi maliliit lang ang wattage nyan, kung umiilaw ilaw kahit mahina, battery na ang isunod mong ipa-checkup. Dalhin mo sa mga battery dealers na may tester talaga para sa Batteries just to verify, huwag lang isa...at least dalawa para may checking ka kung tama yung sinabi nung isa.

STEP 5.
kung may kakilala kayong mahiraman ng parehong size na battery, i-swap nyo muna at itesting nyo sa kabayo nyo, tingnan nyo sir kung mabilis ang response nung starter nya para ma-crank engine nyo.... then testing nyo mga ilaw at busina to confirm....

Sana makatulong.... sa mola ko kasi nasubukan ko ng maputukan ng fuse dahil may ground. Nung nagmodify kasi ako ng forks may mga wires kasi na naipit kaya matagal kong nahuli yung mga grounded na wires...andun pala sa loob nabalatan dahil laging naiipit ng bakal...kaya naka 10 fuses siguro ako bago ko na-trace yung ground na yun...anyway, magandang opportunity to learn sa akin yun hehehe...
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

Thank you for the helpful replies. My MOla is about 5 months old, bought from EMCOR National Highway GenSantos Cityon Feb 2008. There was no complete pre delivery checkup. What they did was install a new battery clean the unit, start thew unit and..tapos na. When I returned the unit dahil palagi ubos ang charge ng battery, what they did was just charge the battery and return the unit, the second time I complained, charge lang ng battery ginawa ng mga experts. The third time at napikon na ako, tsaka lang sila nag request ng battery and regulator sa suzuki, hintay lang daw ako 3 weeks at hintayin ang response ng suzuki.

Hindi lang siguro pareho ang mga dealer, meron nakakaintindi at sine seryoso and trabaho , meron naman nag kukunwari lang.

Tignan ko kung ano anr resulta.

Salamat friends and MCP
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

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Thank you for the helpful replies. My MOla is about 5 months old, bought from EMCOR National Highway GenSantos Cityon Feb 2008. There was no complete pre delivery checkup. What they did was install a new battery clean the unit, start thew unit and..tapos na. When I returned the unit dahil palagi ubos ang charge ng battery, what they did was just charge the battery and return the unit, the second time I complained, charge lang ng battery ginawa ng mga experts. The third time at napikon na ako, tsaka lang sila nag request ng battery and regulator sa suzuki, hintay lang daw ako 3 weeks at hintayin ang response ng suzuki.

Hindi lang siguro pareho ang mga dealer, meron nakakaintindi at sine seryoso and trabaho , meron naman nag kukunwari lang.

Tignan ko kung ano anr resulta.

Salamat friends and MCP

1.Sir with regards to the Model differences na narinig ko from forumers who owned GS-150s...ang lumang mga models nila before nunt 2007model ay may mga problema sa regulators, electric starter...etc. Yung 2007 models nila apparently na correct na raw nila yung mga defficiencies. Sa Decals or Stickers nito sir ay makikita mo na difference nung mga model.
GS-125/150 DECALS (2007 MODEL)


GS-125/150 DECALS (BEFORE 2007)


2. Insist nyo sir na palitan yung mga regulator/rectifier/battery if found deffective and pagnakumpleto na lahat pwede mong gamitin itong PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION FORM para ma-satisfy ka na nadaanan nyo isa-isa ang basic na items na dapat nyong tiningnan bago nyo pa nilabas sa shop nila...Here's a sample (although hindi ito specific for GS-150, yet it is applicable to all bikes). Hope it helps


kung masyadong maliit...inform me at ipadala ko na lang syo through email para mas malinaw.
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Old August 5th, 2008
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

Sir Midnight Blue,
Thanks for the reply and illustrations. Yes, I asked Emcor to replace the regulator, they included a new battery just in case. Hinihintay pa rin anmin ang parts from Suzuki Phils., Sabi nila ganun daw talaga kabagal ang response ng Suzuki. We are on our 3rd week waiting, baka next week meron na.

Tinanung ko na rin ang Emcor kung pwede palitan na lang ng Kawasaki Barako. Malabo daw eto He he he.

I post ko kung anong resulta.

Salamat.
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Sir Midnight Blue,
Thanks for the reply and illustrations. Yes, I asked Emcor to replace the regulator, they included a new battery just in case. Hinihintay pa rin anmin ang parts from Suzuki Phils., Sabi nila ganun daw talaga kabagal ang response ng Suzuki. We are on our 3rd week waiting, baka next week meron na.

Tinanung ko na rin ang Emcor kung pwede palitan na lang ng Kawasaki Barako. Malabo daw eto He he he.

I post ko kung anong resulta.

Salamat.
Hmmmm.... mabagal ang suzuki...baka sila ang mabagal at baka mayari sila sa sinabi nila... pagcrinoss check nyo yan sa suzuki...hahaha. Minsan share ko lang yung experience ko dyan sa misuse of words to make an excuse... eto yung nung nagtanong ako sa MOTORTRADE na pinagkuhanan ko na kaya daw na delay yung release ng CR ko dahil hindi pa raw naifile ng SUZUKI... parang di ako naniniwala sa kanila...hmmm, ginawa ko nagverify ako sa Motortrade kung naifile na ba nila ang papeles...vinerify ko sa ORDER AND DISTRIBUTION SECTION ng Suzuki plant at nagulat ang officer in charge kung bakit ganun daw sinabi nung dealer samantalang matagal ng naka-file daw ang papeles nun sa PNP...kaya tinanong ako kung saang branch at tinawagan kaagad. Later nalaman ko napagsabihan ata sila ng taga suzuki at nadiskubre kong sa dealer ko talaga ang problema... iniipon nila ang mga papeles at bultuhan nilang fina-file kaya umaabot ng 2mos. or more bago ma release ang papers... Ngayon nasa sa iyo na sir yung action kesa mag-antay.... syanga pala sir DU9SS yung before 2007 ba ang mola unit nyo sir o yung 2007 na? Bisaya ko sir pwede pud ko nimong binisay-on...ehehehe
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Re: Lemon Suzuki Mola 150?

Sir Midnight Blue,
Dili tanan may Mola 150 makasabut ug bisaya. Yes, 2007 model yung Mola nakuha ko, meron ng cam adjuster and bago na ang sticker design.

Actually totoo na incompetent ang dealer na nakunan ko ng Mola. Feb 28 nila pinasok ang registration. July na ng nag volunteer ako na ako na personally ang kukuha ng plate number sa LTO tsaka lang ako nagka plate number.

Pa bisita ko uli sa tao ko ang Emcor kung nandoon na ang parts.

Thanks
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Sir Midnight Blue,
Dili tanan may Mola 150 makasabut ug bisaya. Yes, 2007 model yung Mola nakuha ko, meron ng cam adjuster and bago na ang sticker design.

Actually totoo na incompetent ang dealer na nakunan ko ng Mola. Feb 28 nila pinasok ang registration. July na ng nag volunteer ako na ako na personally ang kukuha ng plate number sa LTO tsaka lang ako nagka plate number.

Pa bisita ko uli sa tao ko ang Emcor kung nandoon na ang parts.

Thanks
.... Haaay may ibang dealer talaga na pasaway sir... nasisira lang yung mga reputation ng dinadala nilang mga MC names... anyway, update na lang kayo sir sa developments ng bike nyo at baka bukod pa sa regulator ay may sira pa bang iba o any other items na kakaiba... baka kasi may matutunan pa tayong may GS-150 regarding our units... syanga pala sir kung sana makavisit ka rin dun sa isang thread for GS-150 it would be of help para sa ibang may Mola...Kung may negative inputs pa kayo na gustong idagdag, post din natin para alam ng iba...
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